Dinho lad Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Still, unfounded accusations doesn't make it easier for BAME. Link to post Share on other sites
ManDoon Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 My first post about it was actually addressing the racism claims - and not necessarily at you (so I was just using your post as it mentioned what Wilders had said). By the time I had come back and saw your reply to me, I wasn't realising that I had quoted you originally, I thought I had quoted someone else. But anyway, my error, so my apologies. fair enough Link to post Share on other sites
Conjo Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 I don’t think he’s racist (might be) but I do question what it is that he felt the lefties and do gooders as he put it, wouldn’t let him say. If you read his quotes back : “People talk about not being allowed to say this or that to them. “I’m not bothered in psychologists or do-gooders or lefties, I don't know what you're allowed to say. “I’m the football manager, so I’m saying it as it is." It’s such a strange quote, I don’t know what it is he felt he couldn’t say, because of “do gooders or lefties”. I think people on the left should be far more open minded to the possibility that many people are simply ignorant when they say stuff, and aren't saying them with hurtful intent. I can't imagine many people that has been involved with professional football their whole life has paid much attention to identity politics. This is as much speculation on my part as the racist claims from Kaiz, but Wilder has, in top football terms at least, lived fairly much under the radar from media and social media. I suspect that comment could be because he's been picked up on some things he's said that may have been offensive to someone, without necessarily knowing that is was. Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Jinx Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Seriously, who gives a shit? Link to post Share on other sites
Abra Dubravka Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I don’t think he’s racist (might be) but I do question what it is that he felt the lefties and do gooders as he put it, wouldn’t let him say. If you read his quotes back : “People talk about not being allowed to say this or that to them. “I’m not bothered in psychologists or do-gooders or lefties, I don't know what you're allowed to say. “I’m the football manager, so I’m saying it as it is." It’s such a strange quote, I don’t know what it is he felt he couldn’t say, because of “do gooders or lefties”. If the cap fits... Seems something he’s said has riled you up at some point, as every time I’ve seen Wilder’s name crop up on this forum for last month or so, there has been a post quickly followed from you usually moaning at him with a post containing the term ‘lefty’ or ‘lefties’. Personally, I think Wilder’s been a credit to Sheffield United. League 1 to 9th in Prem was it? The overlapping full backs stuff foxed many a Championship and top PL manager. First half of this season Sheff U were never out played, and playing us showed that. Wish the bloke all the best. Think he’ll struggle to go straight back in at PL with a job, but I see no shame in having a couple of jobs in Championship over next 5 years or so and possibly not getting it right. After all he was at Northampton not long ago, and no bugger knew him. Ryan Cresswell podcast on Undr Cosh maybe early 2018 (17/18 season), he played for him in League 2, winning the title at Northampton- said Wilder was another level down in L2 and would manage in Premier League. If he turned up here next season, ehh undecided ask me what division? Link to post Share on other sites
Happinesstan Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I think it's pretty clear what he meant. Bullying, or banter, has always been part and parcel of football. Not the nicest part, let's be honest, but if a player can't stand having the piss taken by his own boss/teammates, then he's going to struggle in front of 40k of the opposition. Was just watching a video of Michael Bridges talking about the level of shit you have to put up with as a pro, and they all made it seem like it was as right as morning dew. I'm guessing he's had to tone it down a little. He does specify [in one of the quotes] that the problem is he doesn't know what he's allowed to say. This implies he is consciously trying not to be a dick, which naturally has an impact on the fluidity of his interactions. Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Big Nigel Adkins back in the game. Will please his fanclub. Link to post Share on other sites
Shearergol Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Big Nigel Adkins back in the game. Will please his fanclub. Pleased for him, top chap. He always made a lot of time to stop and chat when he was at Scunthorpe. Link to post Share on other sites
George Bailey Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Always seemed a decent enough bloke and competent at his job. Unlike some who could be named. Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Alex Neil left Preston Idiots do they not realise they have to pay him off. Link to post Share on other sites
Optimistic Nut Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 If Bruce had walked a month or so ago that’d have been a cushy little number for him like the Sheff Wed job he walked away from. Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkie Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Will be good to put that one to bed anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Bimpy474 Posted yesterday at 19:18 Share Posted yesterday at 19:18 Phil Brown back as Southend United manager after they sack Mark Molesley. Strange timing like. Link to post Share on other sites
toon25 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 10 minutes ago, joeyt said: Didn’t someone do a masterpiece for the football in paint thread of that pic? Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago Aye the jumper was a cock IIRC, probably Hanz Link to post Share on other sites
joeyt Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago Pilko I thought Link to post Share on other sites
Robster Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago IP might have done the singing with the microphone one actually. Link to post Share on other sites
Interpolic Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Aye I did the mic one, Pilko sounds right for the other one Link to post Share on other sites
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