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The way the Saints players crowded the ref at the end of the first half should just not be allowed.

Lets not forget that VAR showed their played dived for a penalty, the penalty was overturned but no yellow for the dive.

Missed that. VAR loves a dive. If you can dive so there's 'contact' that's even better. More penalties = moar goals = Excitement!

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I'm really not sure how this is supposed to work, but did anyone see the tackle on Fernandes last night the same time we scored? At the very least a yellow card. Nothing given. Do fouls not count if they happen in the same phase of play as a goal? 

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Blatant fucking pen. What's the fucking point in VAR if they won't overule a ref, or even have the fucking cunt go look at the screen. Unable to to implement the relatively simple concept of video assisted refereeing, what fucking hope have you got?

May as well let the fat, bald fucking cunt officiate the game as he sees fit.

Respect the ref blah blah blah, the PL is refereed by absolute useless, brain dead cunts beyond any sort of help. 

The sooner they get a robot on the pitch to do it, as opposed to these pricks, the better.

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The whole thing's just too confusing and adds nothing to the game.

That Man Utd disallowed goal yesterday... is accidentally touching the face of an opponent with your hand, once you're already past them, even a foul? If so, what rule was VAR looking at and how did they decide? They should be telling fans like they do on American football (for example)... "player X committed rule breach Y, therefore we're doing Z".

Part of the problem Is VAR and part of it is football itself. It's a strange sport which is more governed by unspoken conventions than the actual rules. Most fans, pundits, managers and players probably don't even know what the rules say about a given thing. When TV pundits analyse what's happening, there's a good chance they don't have a clue what the basis for a decision should be.

If we're keeping it, offside and handball would be the biggest things to fix. For offside you could maybe do 'on-field decision' if it's very close, or even change the rule so it's just based on the position of the feet. Something like that anyway. 

For handball, the only fair way is the old 'was it deliberate' question IMO, and I'm not sure a slow motion replay really helps with that. 

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19 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Sorting offside out would go a long way. Either take offside out of VARs remit, or allow a buffer zone for the attacking player, so we're not checking borderline decisions.

Dale Johnson from ESPN said the other day that leagues have been prevented from using the Champions League method, which is apparently just to do a visual check.

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Balbuena decision was absolutely laughable. How can you get to the top level of officiating and think that this is anything more than a follow through. The tech can be perfect, but its useless if its left in the hands of utterly clueless cunts.

Every week there' outrageous decisions. Its pathetic. 

 

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So many things happen today show how broken football is. 

The Wilson goal, shows how the rules just don't work and how VAR is not fit for purpose as they never looked at the TAA push. 

ASM getting body checked, yellow cards worthless here. Football needs sin bins like all other sports. Do a tactical foul like that your team is down to 10 men for 10 mins.

The west ham red, well I'm not sure how you fix that. See so many stupid decisions with follow throughs either the kicker catching someone, or a defender trying to block and the kicker kicking them and then getting hurt. You'd think with endless replays they'd see it's not even a foul but I'm not sure what rules these people are reading. 

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I wonder what it'll take before a manager or players decide to take protest action and refuse to give interviews, walk off the pitch etc? Surely we can't be far away from that, every week there's a blatantly wrong shit decision screwing one team or another over.

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I'd like to hear a ref like Peter Walton come on to explain the reasoning behind the decision. The pundits don't seem to know enough about how the rules are being interpreted to help us here. It does seem that a lack of intention doesn't completely exonerate a player if they're not properly in control of the challenge.

Overall, there's sufficient doubt about the incident to make it not worthy of a red. It was unusual became the leading foot came downwards on to the opponent's leg, although that seemed to be the result of Balbuena's standing foot slipping on the turf. 

I was opposed to VAR being used for anything but matters of fact like whether the ball crossed the goal line and offsides. But now that it's here, we may as well try and make it work better. As Walton said yesterday, refs are in areas which they've never had to explore before, and it'll take some time before it's all straightened out.

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Well, within the limitations of the technology, yes, offsides are a matter of fact.

I don't get the fuss about decisions when a player is only fractionally offside. If you're going to use technology, then that's offside. Keep it simple.

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7 hours ago, Cronky said:

I'd like to hear a ref like Peter Walton come on to explain the reasoning behind the decision. The pundits don't seem to know enough about how the rules are being interpreted to help us here. It does seem that a lack of intention doesn't completely exonerate a player if they're not properly in control of the challenge.

Overall, there's sufficient doubt about the incident to make it not worthy of a red. It was unusual became the leading foot came downwards on to the opponent's leg, although that seemed to be the result of Balbuena's standing foot slipping on the turf. 

I was opposed to VAR being used for anything but matters of fact like whether the ball crossed the goal line and offsides. But now that it's here, we may as well try and make it work better. As Walton said yesterday, refs are in areas which they've never had to explore before, and it'll take some time before it's all straightened out.

I wouldn’t ask Peter Walton anything.  I don’t think he’s ever went against a decision that’s already been made when he’s been asked for a ‘second opinion’.

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10 hours ago, Cronky said:

Well, within the limitations of the technology, yes, offsides are a matter of fact.

I don't get the fuss about decisions when a player is only fractionally offside. If you're going to use technology, then that's offside. Keep it simple.

The fuss is surely at what point do you freeze the frame then what part of the body you use to draw the line. If the TV companies revisited all these VAR offsides and didn’t show the lines and asked an audience whether they were on or off you’d soon realise the problem.

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20 minutes ago, LFEE said:

The fuss is surely at what point do you freeze the frame then what part of the body you use to draw the line. If the TV companies revisited all these VAR offsides and didn’t show the lines and asked an audience whether they were on or off you’d soon realise the problem.

Like I said, the technology has its limitations, but you get a more accurate decision than relying on the human eye in a split second. 

VAR was never going to be perfect. 

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1 minute ago, Cronky said:

Like I said, the technology has its limitations, but you get a more accurate decision than relying on the human eye in a split second. 

VAR was never going to be perfect. 

Referees are never perfect. So let’s just stick with them and enjoy the moment more wether the decision is proven right or wrong the next day  🤷‍♂️ 

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12 hours ago, LFEE said:

Referees are never perfect. So let’s just stick with them and enjoy the moment more wether the decision is proven right or wrong the next day  🤷‍♂️ 

It's obstructing what the real issue is that refs are getting a lot of decisions wrong and don't apply the rules consistently enough.

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