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113 members have voted

  1. 1. Have you / do you intend to pledge to the 1892 Pledge scheme orchestrated by the NUST?

    • Yes
      56
    • No
      48


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4 minutes ago, Inferior Acuña said:

Mean and average are generally synonyms. 50k/4000 wont give the mean monthly pledge though cos the 50k will include some one offs. Anyway it's probably more useful to know the median.

 

I'm going to pledge but am waiting a couple of months to pay off some credit card debt first. I think Hurst said on one of the videos 6 figures would be great after a month. I suspect won't reach that within a motnh as I'd imagine the increase will tale off substantially after the initial hype. Still >50K is great going as a start.

It will give the monthly mean up until the end of the first month.

 

I knew the joke would be better if I had said "that's just mean", but I didn't want to edit it, for some reason.

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7 hours ago, Dr Jinx said:

If they even raised a few hundred grand it would be much better and far more enjoyable to just start a new club. If the donations kept up each year it could really become something. A place for local talent not to get swallowed up and sent on too early.

The idea of raising a few million to buy 1% of nufc just seems pointless compared to the journey you could have with something new.


but then you would lose the history and tradition of the club. Not everyone would swap clubs and Newcastle would end up a two club city.

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2 hours ago, Rafalove said:


but then you would lose the history and tradition of the club. Not everyone would swap clubs and Newcastle would end up a two club city.

Why would that be a negative? Two clubs in one city I mean? It would take decades to build up a club to be truly considered a rival for nufc anyway.

If the club did get a takeover, a new entity could link up and be a source of local talent. If history over the last 50 years has taught anything is that some of the best talent England have ever produced has come from this region and that nufc has let most of it pass them by.

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59 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

Why would that be a negative? Two clubs in one city I mean? It would take decades to build up a club to be truly considered a rival for nufc anyway.

If the club did get a takeover, a new entity could link up and be a source of local talent. If history over the last 50 years has taught anything is that some of the best talent England have ever produced has come from this region and that nufc has let most of it pass them by.

It would be a terrible thing. You’d end up splitting the supporter base and end up with two medium sized football clubs making Sunderland the biggest club in the region

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17 minutes ago, Rafalove said:

It would be a terrible thing. You’d end up splitting the supporter base and end up with two medium sized football clubs making Sunderland the biggest club in the region

What are you on about? 😂 who’s talking about dividing the fan base?

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39 minutes ago, Inferior Acuña said:

This Super League bollocks highlights the value of this kind of approach. Honestly I'd prefer the scenario of the club tumbling down the divisions and getting a substantial stake.

Would the proposed model have allowed the Trust to veto our involvement in this? Not that we'd ever get there under Ashley obviously. 

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2 hours ago, Joey Linton said:

Would the proposed model have allowed the Trust to veto our involvement in this? Not that we'd ever get there under Ashley obviously. 

Of course not, but the Trust's proposal isn't the significant fan ownership and control that we really need. It's just something they think is achievable. 

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3 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Of course not, but the Trust's proposal isn't the significant fan ownership and control that we really need. It's just something they think is achievable. 

Assumed not obviously, but wasn't sure of the point being made in that case. Cheers for clarifying. 

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3 hours ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

Super League stuff is potentially great timing for NUST to piggy back on fan negativity towards it and get some more traction with the pledge scheme.

Don’t think so, it will turn a lot off football altogether , a lot of folk will be lost to COVID and habits changing .This will have an effect on money received imho I’m afraid . 

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Help anyone? Trying to pledge. Clicking on *other amount* and then typing in£20:00 and then clicking on “pledge now”, a message comes up telling me to “enter amount”. Even though as stated previously I have. What is it I’m doing wrong? :lol:

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2 hours ago, Rafalove said:

Help anyone? Trying to pledge. Clicking on *other amount* and then typing in£20:00 and then clicking on “pledge now”, a message comes up telling me to “enter amount”. Even though as stated previously I have. What is it I’m doing wrong? :lol:

I think you have to leave out the £ sign.

 

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https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/early-success-1892-pledge-revealed-20472311.amp?__twitter_impression=true
 

 

Newcastle United fans have made a successful start to their battle to raise money for 1% of the club
 

It was billed as the week when supporters won as the European Super League was brought down by the rage of football's estabished forces. 

But on Tyneside the reality of fans taking control is playing out - and its one that should fill Newcastle fans with pride. 

Street protests and Government threats might have downed the foolhardy ESL but the battles to change the game will be harder to win, as Newcastle fans reflecting on a decade of trying to influence United under Mike Ashley will testify. 

After years toying with boycotts and direct action, it feels like the fanbase - or most of it - has coalesced around the brilliant 1892 Pledge. With £62,000 raised in just over a fortnight - mostly small, monthly donations from fans, with the the global fanbase really coming through - there is a feeling that momentum is being maintained

 

For Greg Tomlinson, the NUST's chair, the theme of sticking with it when the headlines have moved elsewhere is the one to take from last week's ESL controversy. 

"It was great to mobilise in one way - the plan was abhorrent," he said.
 

But it's not just this - we've had the 39th game, Project Big Picture. If these guys aren't punished, what comes next?

 

It's not the end, if anything this is the beginning of what should be fundamental reform of how how football is governed in the UK. The work, in that regard, has been going on behind-the-scenes with a fan-led review of the game but it's been brought forward. 

There have been reviews of football before of course but we need to make this one count.                  
 
 

Yes, this power grab has been stopped but it doesn't fix everything." 

The Pledge scheme continues to be the headline work of the NUST - and there have been expressions of interest in it. 

A meeting with the shadow cabinet last week was "positive" as the Labour party asked for details of what it would entail. 

"How do you get fans having ownership and equity in your club?" Greg says. 

"Bear in mind the first thing a lot of these owners want is to be compensated for it. If you can build a fund to buy it - if it was set in law that X percentage has to be given to fans but they're given six months, a year or whatever to raise the money - that would be magnificent. 

"The 50 + 1 German model would be everyone's dream but there
 

The fan-led review of football must be fan-led. It's going to be led by a politician so how does that work? We need to make it sure it is properly fan-led." 

On the pledge itself, a surge of donations last week took the initial pot past £60,000. 

The key will be how many are monthly direct debits which will eat away at their one per cent target. 

"It has been a magnificent response with over £60,000 and the key to it all is going to be the direct debits and how they help us. It's a very long term project," he said. 

"Everyone is talking about the 1% but it's a minimum. There's been a great take up on that but we've been overwhelmed by it. There's been a phenomenal take up from all over the world - New Zealand, America and loads and loads locally.

 

The key here is collectively we can have the power."

To make your own pledge, go to 1892pledge.co.uk

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, 54 said:

My math may be wrong, but at the current rate, the 1892 pledge will have raised £1M in a years time.

At that rate by the time they have enough money to buy 1% it will be the value the club was 3 years ago.

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