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Newcastle United Supporters Trust (NUST)   

113 members have voted

  1. 1. Have you / do you intend to pledge to the 1892 Pledge scheme orchestrated by the NUST?

    • Yes
      56
    • No
      48


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So let’s all write begging letters to sting, shearer, and and dec, Sid the sexist, Jimmy Nail, Keegan, the cast of geordie shore and any other loaded person with connections to Newcastle.  Will be sorted in no time

 

I hope we are going to see a totaliser somewhere, or maybe a go fund me page?

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10 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Valid concern for a lot of people. I guess if we knew exactly who the owner will be in future, it would put off as many people as it would attract. Right now we don’t know who it will be. 

I suppose the response would be that the idea is about fan representation rather than providing backing for the other shareholders. Whether that would satisfy people is up to them.

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1 minute ago, ED209 said:

So let’s all write begging letters to sting, shearer, and and dec, Sid the sexist, Jimmy Nail, Keegan, the cast of geordie shore and any other loaded person with connections to Newcastle.  Will be sorted in no time

 

I hope we are going to see a totaliser somewhere, or maybe a go fund me page?

All this shows is that you haven't even arsed yourself to take a look at the website and what the 1892 Pledge actually is and how it works.

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While in general I like the idea, I have concerns that in reality, it's a lot of money to raise, and for a 1% share that in cold, hard terms, gives us no extra power. The 99% shareholder could just forget about it. 

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5 minutes ago, Greg said:

All this shows is that you haven't even arsed yourself to take a look at the website and what the 1892 Pledge actually is and how 

 

 

just had a quick look on the trust site. Can’t find any details at all. 

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24 minutes ago, Disco said:

Good to see Taylor Payne getting involved. A sage of the NUFC fundraising scene.

At least we'll get a documentary out of all of this.

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I look at this as a way of helping to potentially safeguard the club in the future by giving fans the opportunity to buy a stake into it at any level post Ashley, regardless of how small a stake is, anything that gives fans a share in their club is worth it surely? I do hope NUST can drum up the support and pledges of former ex players and other influential institutions and people in and around the city/region. Me, I’m excited, this is something that is very ambitious, but doable and mostly encouraging going forward for our club and it’s fanbase, far better than any protest which only divides. I do feel if there was no Covid and we had full houses every week again, the traction of uptake would be bigger and would enable NUST to directly get pledges from game going fans on match days etc. Anyway I’m 100% in support and have pledged my support financially and will continue to do so on a regular basis. Well done @Gregand everyone involved and I hope everyone gets involved be it whatever amount they can afford or want to pledge because this is the only route to having a direct stake in our club, however small or hopefully large. Get pledging folks. 

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A good idea in principle - there should be a degree of fan ownership with every club.

However it feels to me that it’s just building up to a substantial charitable donation further down the line (when?)

They’ll never raise enough to buy the club outright unless we’ve tumbled down the leagues and can be bought for peanuts. There’s not a chance on earth Ashley would consider relinquishing even a tiny stake.

If the club stays afloat and is sold for serious money, I also can’t see any new owner happily letting the Trust have a small share of the ownership. It allows whoever is at the top to be held to account. If you’re spending megabucks, surely you want minimal interference?

That’s obviously just my own take on the sad state of football generally.

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5 minutes ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said:

A good idea in principle - there should be a degree of fan ownership with every club.

However it feels to me that it’s just building up to a substantial charitable donation further down the line (when?)

They’ll never raise enough to buy the club outright unless we’ve tumbled down the leagues and can be bought for peanuts. There’s not a chance on earth Ashley would consider relinquishing even a tiny stake.

If the club stays afloat and is sold for serious money, I also can’t see any new owner happily letting the Trust have a small share of the ownership. It allows whoever is at the top to be held to account. If you’re spending megabucks, surely you want minimal interference?

That’s obviously just my own take on the sad state of football generally.

I think any genuine owner with good intentions would be happy to work closely with its support base and effectively its customers, NUST and fans are not out to dictate to owners/directors, but to be United in ensuring that our club (and theirs) is successful and that can’t happen without fan involvement and community integration. Just look at the academy, it’s a shambles. 

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3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I can see a good owner wanting the fans in, excellent PR and an easy way to get their views.

The last time the club truly involved the fans was under SJH and KK and look at the results. The last manager to truly involve the fans in terms of communications and PR was Rafa and look at the unanimous support for the team and manager even following a relegation and some not so good results and performances, look at the effect of Wor Flags. Sadly we’ve had an owner for the last 14 years that has not only not involved fans but deliberately and maliciously antagonised, divided and frankly made unwelcome at our own club other than for our money. 

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3 minutes ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said:

There's a difference in engaging and wanting to work alongside them to actively allowing them to own a small percentage of the club.

Are you're a Guardian 

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6 minutes ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said:

There's a difference in engaging and wanting to work alongside them to actively allowing them to own a small percentage of the club.

Sure, that would be for a buyer to decide, would depend on the people. But say I can get £10m towards my bid, good PR and all I have to do is listen to what the fan representatives tell me, it doesn't seem such a bad idea.

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7 minutes ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said:

There's a difference in engaging and wanting to work alongside them to actively allowing them to own a small percentage of the club.

And there is also a difference in what a stakeholder can do or not do or influence or not based on their stake-hold, which I’d assume would be set out from the start under any terms and conditions anyway.

 

I sold a stake in my company years ago and that individual gradually upped his stake and it’s been mutually beneficial for both and indeed the company. I imagine any professional person or persons would be perfectly able and capable of working with say NUST accordingly and NUST likewise, 1% or above regardless.

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12 minutes ago, HTT II said:

The last time the club truly involved the fans was under SJH and KK and look at the results. The last manager to truly involve the fans in terms of communications and PR was Rafa and look at the unanimous support for the team and manager even following a relegation and some not so good results and performances, look at the effect of Wor Flags. Sadly we’ve had an owner for the last 14 years that has not only not involved fans but deliberately and maliciously antagonised, divided and frankly made unwelcome at our own club other than for our money. 

The fans have never been truly involved under any administration

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1 minute ago, InspectorCoarse said:

The fans have never been truly involved under any administration

Not at board level yes, but in lots of other ways under previous owners/management and to great effect. I can see it becoming law in the near future that fan representation will be needed at board level at every club, I hope so anyway. 

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